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Election 2008 where do u stand...

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Postby shaded » Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:17 am

I am watching closely too. I no fit vote but I guess you have read about Geraldine Ferrarro's comments. For someone who was a VP candidate to say that just beggars believe. Anyway, I want Obama to continue to keep it positive. He should ignore such comments and continue to emphasise that many americans of all colours have risen above the politics of race and voted for him.
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Postby dubem » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:50 am

http://cbs2chicago.com/video/?id=43120@wbbm.dayport.com

Obama's speech on Rev Wright's sermon...

PS...I am amazed, this speech is the most heartfelt and elequent of his speeches I have seen yet :P
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Postby chiyke » Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:01 am

I have never felt so proud of my black heritage like i did when i saw his speech it really showed how matured his thinking is. GO OBAMA. :D :D :D [/quote]
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Postby jezzy » Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:16 pm

I watched the Obama speech and I could feel his passion and intensity in my bones.What he said is from the heart.I agree that Pastor Wright may have got some things wrong but what he said is what most black people have been saying for a while.It is just blown out of proportion because it is Obama's pastor.Mscheeeeeeeeeeeew!!!
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Postby dubem » Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:53 pm

Some people at my job said it was all bull... :?
I am begining to see why GOD gave me this job.
Some of these people are racist and don't even know it... :(
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Postby weruche » Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:16 pm

They are really not ready for change. If something that has very little or nothing to do with him, can have them waver like this, then they never really saw the good in the man.
I'm so mad, right now.
Watch McCain be president, if Obama doesn't win the democratic nomination. :evil: :evil:
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Postby dubem » Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:47 pm

Nne the thing tire me mennnnn~
And the guy started talking about foreigners raping America fof it's intelectual resources. I quickly informed him that we pay almost 3 times their tuition and therefore had as much right to the same resources as he had as opposed to be seen as aliens who needed to go back home after paying exorbitant amounts for their education. I said that most people even needed to recoup some of the fees they paid while in school to enable them go back home and that the intelectual resources he spoke about also included NON American brains alike... :roll: :roll: :roll:

Can u even imagine what America would be like without foreign students? 8O 8O 8O

I guess I will save my political passion for educating this man biko...
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Postby zika_anoka » Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:59 pm

Dubd,

Just watching Gov. Bill Richardson addressing the nation and endorsing Obama. I loved what he said, that he is not happy with the" DEMONISATION OF IMMIGRANTS" and the sudden RISE IN HATE CRIMES AGAINST IMMIGRANTS

Dubs.... a very good speech
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Postby dubem » Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:48 pm

Thanks Zika!
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Postby dubem » Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:49 pm

Check out this fun side of the elections...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080325/ap_ ... _genealogy
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Obama related to Pitt, Clinton to Jolie By DENISE LAVOIE
Associated Press Writer

BOSTON - This could make for one odd family reunion: Barack Obama is a distant cousin of actor Brad Pitt, and Hillary Rodham Clinton is related to Pitt's girlfriend, Angelina Jolie.

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Researchers at the New England Historic Genealogical Society found some remarkable family connections for the three presidential candidates — Democratic rivals Obama and Clinton, and Republican John McCain.

Clinton, who is of French-Canadian descent on her mother's side, is also a distant cousin of singers Madonna, Celine Dion and Alanis Morissette. Obama, the son of a white woman from Kansas and a black man from Kenya, can call six U.S. presidents, including George W. Bush, his cousins. McCain is a sixth cousin of first lady Laura Bush.

"You'd think with all that singing talent in the family she'd be able to carry a tune," Clinton's senior adviser Philippe Reines said. "But now it makes much more sense how she snagged a Grammy."

Clinton won for best spoken word Grammy in 1997 for "It Takes a Village." Obama also won a Grammy in that category this year for the audio version of his book, "The Audacity Of Hope: Thoughts On Reclaiming The American Dream."

Genealogist Christopher Child said that while the candidates often focus on pointing out differences between them, their ancestry shows they are more alike than they think.

"It shows that lots of different people can be related, people you wouldn't necessarily expect," Child said.

Obama has a prolific presidential lineage that features Democrats and Republicans. His distant cousins include President George W. Bush and his father, George H.W. Bush, Gerald Ford, Lyndon Johnson, Harry S. Truman and James Madison. Other Obama cousins include Vice President Dick Cheney, British Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill and Civil War General Robert E. Lee.

Obama often jokes about his cousin Cheney at campaign appearances.

"His kinships are across the political spectrum," Child said.

Child has spent the last three years tracing the candidates' genealogy, along with senior research scholar Gary Boyd Roberts, author of the 1989 book, "Ancestors of American Presidents."

Clinton's distant cousins include beatnik author Jack Kerouac and Camilla Parker-Bowles, wife of Prince Charles of England.

McCain's ancestry was more difficult to trace because records on his relatives were not as complete as records for the families of Obama and Clinton, Child said.

Obama and President Bush are 10th cousins, once removed, linked by Samuel Hinkley of Cape Cod, who died in 1662.

Pitt and Obama are ninth cousins, linked by Edwin Hickman, who died in Virginia in 1769. Ben LaBolt, a spokesman for the Obama campaign, declined to comment on the senator's ancestry.

Clinton and Jolie are ninth cousins, twice removed, both related to Jean Cusson who died in St. Sulpice, Quebec, in 1718.

The New England Historic Genealogical Society, founded in 1845, is the oldest and largest nonprofit genealogical organization in the country.


So in reality, Bush no wan vote for im cousin... :-D
Nnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, dis world small no be small...
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Postby dubem » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:37 am

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Postby weruche » Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:22 am

Where are all these TV ads? I only see the ones CNN or MSNBC choose to air ... :smt017 :smt017
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Postby dubem » Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:54 am

Nne I saw some of them for the first time on the site.
Try searching on Youtube for 2008 ad campaigns.
I am sure u will find some... :o
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Postby zika_anoka » Mon May 05, 2008 1:51 pm

Just read on CNN TD Jakes take on the wright issue. Makes for a rather good read
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/05/jakes/index.html

(CNN) -- The blood-washed church for which Jesus died is not relegated to one group or another, nor is it held hostage by politics or ethnicity. It is a breathing, living testament to God's love and grace. It serves its community where it is located and is aware of the needs and nuances of that community. However, its relevance and vision must go beyond its community and reach the world for which Christ died.

Today as the church moves from its introspective posture to a broader role in politics, business, media and impacting societal ills, it has the dubious and daunting task of doing so without losing its core function. Like all such organizations that cease to be intrinsically focused, it runs the risk of being totally misunderstood and misaligned.

I have listened and watched the events of the last few days with great disappointment as the church and the so-called African-American church, in particular, has been painted rather negatively with a broad, wide-ranging brush. I personally wish the distinctions of the church by ethnicity would one day become an antiquated idea. But this will require more people moving from a segregated worship experience. Until then, the church is becoming increasingly bruised by those who seek to move it from its core principles and make it an instrument of division rather than a catalyst for unity!

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To say the current picture in the media of the institution that I have loved all of my life is less than flattering would be an understatement. And because I know that many Americans unfortunately do not venture outside of the comfort of their own groups for worship, the only understanding some will have of who we are is based largely on sound bites and media portrayals. I want to set the record straight!

I am afraid that once again our churches will be victimized by stereotypical ideas and opinions that are based in whole or in part by the extreme and not the norm.

The church I have read about in the media -- a church filled with divisiveness, a lack of tolerance for other ethnic groups, a church not focused on helping the downtrodden and less fortunate, a church filled with hostility -- does not remotely resemble the churches that I grew up around and have loved for more than 50 years.

Most, if not all, predominantly African-American church doors are open to all, not just to blacks, but to anyone who is seeking a spiritual home, guidance, support, direction, faith and a feeding of the soul in the purest sense. Many of us have worked with other organizations, different cultures and denominations believing that there is more to unite us than there is to divide us.

The African-American church I know is filled with programs designed to address the many ills that inflict our society: HIV/AIDS, homelessness, reducing the rate of recidivism, assisting with employment and job training, economic development and financial management classes, home buying seminars, food banks to feed the hungry, schools to educate and an active plan to guide our youth. Those outreaches have been colorblind, passionate depictions of Christ's love for all humanity!

The predominantly African-American church may be founded by an African American, it may be led on Sunday by an African American, but as you look through the crowd of these beacons of hope and faith, you will see an increasing audience that is much more reflective of our world than many would have you to believe. White, black, Hispanic, Asian -- nationalities from all across the world come together -- some to visit our churches, to enjoy our music and ministers and still others are gradually starting to join our churches. Gradually race fades into the fabric of faith and becomes less central to the overarching core of human needs in general. Is it a perfect union? Of course not. Is there work to do? Absolutely! But the core message is not one that enrages, but one that encourages people to change and grow, and any other depiction is distorted and inaccurate.

The Potter's House, though largely African-American, is composed of 20 different nationalities and growing in diversity. It is designed much the same way Sen. BarackObama has built his campaign: on a strong commitment to reconciliation, the admonition for unity and strong desire for the continuation of diversity instead of exclusion.

While I have not endorsed any candidate, who can ignore the hunger of Americans for change? No matter who your political choice may be, it is hard to remain ambivalent to the tone that Obama sounded, igniting a national response from people of all walks of life, crowding into stadiums openly weeping -- like they were in church -- at the very idea of a nation that reflects the best of our ideals; not the divisive ranting and bickering that may drive up ratings but threaten the cannibalization of our dreams and the demolition of our hopes.

As a child, I grew up in a neighborhood back in West Virginia where blacks and whites helped each other in times of need and despair. Now that I am in Dallas, Texas, I have seen our city struggle to its feet in times of dire desperation. I was there when the buses came in to the Reunion Arena in Dallas loaded with mostly people of color who were hungry, weak and tired, and needing human dignity. They were unloaded -- covered with the stench of the atrocities of the superdome in New Orleans. I saw blacks, whites and Hispanics driving up with bags of clothes and food and crying together, trying to accommodate whomever they could, wherever they could. This is the America I want my grandson to grow up in.

I am wondering who will get the message that our nation's citizens are by and large looking for a voice that will unite us, clothe our naked, feed the poor and help our diminishing middle class before we self-destruct like many great empires of the past. Who cares what color they are, what banner they fly, what gender they are, or how they pronounce their names? This is a defining moment in our history, and we are about to destroy greatness with petty self- aggrandizing egotism!

I implore you to not take the words of a few and depict the thoughts, hearts and motives of many. At the end of the day, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. proved with his nonviolent approach that hate-filled words will not liberate anyone. To be sure, there is still work to do to defeat racism and to attain justice in our country for all. We continue to need someone who will hold us accountable to our best practices and not our worst. But there is no liberation without love, no prosperity without philanthropy and no hope if the church becomes immersed in the quagmire of pettiness.

As an American I plead with you that we are running out of time. It is critical that we dislodge ourselves from political distractions. We must return to the task of looking for the right man or woman who can answer the bloodcurdling cry of a nation that is in search of a leader with a courageous effective plan for the war in Iraq, and the medical, moral, economic and security issues that are being ignored by these distractions. If we do not, we will have done a terrible disservice to our coming generations.

The Bible said that while good men slept, evil ones came and planted tare, a noxious weed, among the wheat! The tare of a hate-filled church image is a tactical distraction planted to divert our attention from choosing our next president. Let's get back to listening for leadership strategies from our best and brightest before there is no country left to lead. My hope is that the church remains a vibrant part of our process, sounding the alarm that warns: America, please wake up out of our sleep
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Postby dubem » Mon May 05, 2008 2:10 pm

My respect for Bishop Jakes only seems to get better by the day! :smt045 :smt045 :smt045

There was something that my pastor said recently which stuck with me...
The topic he was preaching about was in trusting God.
"Trust in the Lord and keep doing good, don’t worry about fixing the bad. Fix it only when the bad is under your jurisdiction. Or else you are blocking God’s blessing from flowing. Carefree doesn’t mean you should be careless. God doesn’t condone carelessness."

He was talking about how David trusted God and yet when men that he had been very good friends with betrayed him, he turned to God rather than deal with them directly.

Rom 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
He then said...
The verse above speaks about a Christian character which a large majority of Christians today lack…


He defined trust as:
    1. To trust is to be confident and to feel the safety and security that is felt when one can rely on something or on someone else.
    2. Batah (Hebrew word for trust) to put ones confidence in God’s ability, God’s judgment, God’s timing and God’s sovereignty. God’s sovereignty means that there is nothing out of reach from God’s power. He can pull it all together at the same time. God is never late, He is always on time even though sometimes, we humans can get impatient with Him.
One of the biggest fights for any believer is in the lines of interpersonal relationships. It is also one of the biggest areas where you can learn to trust God. Even Jesus realized this when He cast satan out from Peter. Jesus preserved Himself from sin and yet, saved Peter from the hands of the enemy.

Meekness is strength under control.
It takes meekness to trust God."


My summary:
The message in all this is…
It is not every battle that is worth fighting and Christian's especially those on the frontlines should be aware of that...

Even when we think we have done the right things and somehow, things just seem to have gone out of control, it pays to turn over the wheels to God and let Him re-align things once again.

Taking things into our own hands often makes things worse because then we are no longer under God's influence but merely working with our emotions and probably making a fool of ourselves and a mess of things...


Very good lesson for me... :P
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